tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3279786472578722137.post6198255999969041555..comments2024-03-15T02:55:43.872+00:00Comments on Roundwood's World: A Dip on the Saxon ShoreSidney Roundwoodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03440705981976797774noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3279786472578722137.post-16253453257460799912012-01-25T10:04:12.263+00:002012-01-25T10:04:12.263+00:00Thanks for the comments, everyone. I'm really...Thanks for the comments, everyone. I'm really glad I've stumbled on a subject people have a lot of interesting views on. OK, Where to start….<br /><br />@Mike - good tip, Mike. I'd not heard of that. I'm going to persevere for another batch of figures this weekend and I shall give that a go. Thanks!<br /><br />@Angry - Thanks Fran. I think a lot of it is about how you feel when the figures on the table. In last night's game I was really pleased to be able t o put some figures out, but every time I saw mine I did wince slightly inside. I think they need a bit more work….perhaps not much, but certainly a bit.<br /><br />@Sander - I can certainly understand where you're coming from. A couple of guys at the club have also said "once was enough" with the dip system.<br /><br />@Ray - thanks mate. Yeah, I agree, they do look dark and flat. You're right that I imagine back in the fifth century you were lucky not to be wearing rags covered in farmyard muck, and bright colours would have been pretty rare. That being said, I think I need a few highlights on them, and probably re-do that bright green!<br /><br />@Matt - Wise words, Matt, very wise words indeed. I was trying to go for bright colours when I used the green….and you can see how badly that came out! I think the red was much better. I steered clear of the yellow base coat but I shall give that a go this weekend. I'm going to persevere with the dip (fingers crossed) at least one more time. Thanks so much for the comment.<br /><br />@Benito - I agree totally! I felt more than a little embarrassed posting the figures on the Blog. They really aren’t up to the standard of the Great War and 17th Century stuff. You put your finger on why - I spent hardly any time on them. But I thought it only fair to show everyone who I frequently screw up completely in getting colours wrong and in painting generally. I'm going to give it another go and take a bit more time and care next time!<br /><br />@Michael - your painting's wonderful, Michael. So unless you have a burning desire to start dipping, I think you're totally justified in carrying on as you are!<br /><br />@Christopher - thanks so much for the long comment Christopher. You're an awesome painter, so your views are certainly valued. I hear what you and Matt and the others are saying - it seems like a better choice of base colours and highlighting may be the way to go - with the additional time requirement.<br /><br />@MiniMike - How I wish I'd talked to you about this when we met at Crisis, mate!!! yes, I'm certainly going to add the transfers and standards, so that may help a bit. Good to know you've had similar "bad dipping days" :)<br /><br />@Rodger - Hi Rodger. That made me laugh. See, I'm actually putting people off using AP now!!<br /><br /><br /><br />Thanks again everyone for those comments. I shall certainly post the next batch and you can see if you think they're any better!Sidney Roundwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14795563060856586670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3279786472578722137.post-62823721958181998662012-01-25T09:16:10.915+00:002012-01-25T09:16:10.915+00:00They look pretty good Sidney. I have not tried AP ...They look pretty good Sidney. I have not tried AP yet and I'm not sure if I will.Rodgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14447816347472085277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3279786472578722137.post-37052466173974175942012-01-25T08:16:51.759+00:002012-01-25T08:16:51.759+00:00How I wish this AP would work like a miracle.. OK,...How I wish this AP would work like a miracle.. OK, they don't come close to your WWI stuff but they look perfectly fine for gaming and if you spend two evenings doing some highlights and a couple of transfers on the shields they would stand out more. Thanks for the post as well, I've tried AP but I'm just not good at it. Did not save me time and did not like the overall brown effect it had on the minis as a whole. You did a way better job, and 50 figs in a weekend in massive impressive for me.MiniMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04818743972462962721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3279786472578722137.post-32821375486290927042012-01-24T23:24:27.236+00:002012-01-24T23:24:27.236+00:00First off I'll say your figures turned out fin...First off I'll say your figures turned out fine and you shouldn't be afraid to set them on the table.:-)<br />That said, I would really like to be positive on AP, but my experience has been a mixed baged resulting in equally mixed feelings.<br />I've painted two armies using the dip method and on my first army(Trojans) with just using the dip didn't look good at all so I applied a highlight which did improve the results, but also added more time to the process.<br />Still not satisfied with one highlight on my second army(EL Cid)I added two highlights which did look pretty good, but of course added even more time thus saving little time over my normal method of painting in the end.<br />Also it seems AP drains the colour out of my miniatures which I don't like as I like my figures quite vibrant: Working with it stinks and is a sticky. Plus it shades areas more then I'd like or not enough which often isn't apparent until after the protective coat is added and this is even after I used a brush in applying the AP.<br />Most projects I've gone back to painting my figures the normal way which is working fine, but sometimes I'd like a few areas more deeply shaded and for this I'll be looking at washes to help speed it along while still having control.<br />Over all for me to get results I can live with from AP requires extensive highlighting which really adds to the time which for me any ways removes the whole point of using it. However, I'm not saying I won't use it any more which I probably will as it still saves a little time, but I will give it some thought before I do on each project that I think I might use it.<br />Good luck and hope using lighter colours gives you the results your after.<br /><br />ChristopherChristopher(aka Axebreaker)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13205928451375232865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3279786472578722137.post-34449196070843124212012-01-24T23:20:11.266+00:002012-01-24T23:20:11.266+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Christopher(aka Axebreaker)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13205928451375232865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3279786472578722137.post-45808539418109207512012-01-24T22:01:20.972+00:002012-01-24T22:01:20.972+00:00Being relatively new to the hobby I've often b...Being relatively new to the hobby I've often been tempted by the dip method but have often wondered if, like you, would find the process limiting. I have no doubt faced with a large army it has to be worth serious consideration but just dipping in and out of eras I'm happy just carrying on as I am.Michael Awdryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07049982879661559305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3279786472578722137.post-62233415712640293862012-01-24T21:21:58.205+00:002012-01-24T21:21:58.205+00:00To be totally honest, and sorry to disagree with t...To be totally honest, and sorry to disagree with the rest of the comments todat, but your WWI figures look significantly much better than this gang... but it is true that you invested much more effort, and effort paysAnibal Invictushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00574972963418062956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3279786472578722137.post-15274315631880316352012-01-24T19:26:51.887+00:002012-01-24T19:26:51.887+00:00Sidney,
The dipping was fine, but you're abso...Sidney,<br /><br />The dipping was fine, but you're absolutely right that your choice of base colours was incorrect. Mid to dark greens and drab browns just don't come out well. The top tip I found was to paint the figures in base colours that appear to be a little too bright, i.e. rich reds, golden yellow, linen, light browns, off white, etc.<br /><br />Don't give up with the dip. I think it's perfectly suited to these sort of small warband games.<br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />MattMatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06095250467469356503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3279786472578722137.post-77201337656102845812012-01-24T19:11:31.316+00:002012-01-24T19:11:31.316+00:00The figures look fine to me, they may be a little ...The figures look fine to me, they may be a little dark, but I don't suppose there were a lot of bright colours around back then. And like you said you got a nice sized force completed in a weekend, that in itself can't be bad!!Ray Rousellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07352596392520905197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3279786472578722137.post-77728648137182852312012-01-24T15:57:23.245+00:002012-01-24T15:57:23.245+00:00I've had the same experience and verdict with ...I've had the same experience and verdict with the armypainter dips as you describe. Now I leave it well alone. Yet for gaming these figures look well enough, I just hate it when you have spend a lot of time just getting your army right and then your opponent turns up with unpainted or only basecoated figures.Sanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11115340279941888622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3279786472578722137.post-42757226156614892052012-01-24T12:45:17.849+00:002012-01-24T12:45:17.849+00:00They're fine to me but then I've seen some...They're fine to me but then I've seen some of your other figures (beautiful), if you're happy with them then that's the main thing....The Angry Lurkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01227314379603418332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3279786472578722137.post-22570603215682224222012-01-24T12:27:42.532+00:002012-01-24T12:27:42.532+00:00Did you use the trick of leaving the dip a few min...Did you use the trick of leaving the dip a few minutes then pulling it off the highlights with a small brush and some white spirit?<br /><br />I've not used it, but several people swear by it.Mike Whitakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02165272678144625943noreply@blogger.com