Since May this year, I’ve been working on a discrete project which is a lot smaller than my current Laarden 1688 obsession. It’s far from being a complete project - in fact its barely started - but I thought it was a good time to mention it here on the Blog.
Back in 2019, I talked with my good friend, Nick Skinner, about developing a skirmish game based on the adventures of the “Three Musketeers” from the pages of Alexandre Dumas. We thought that the exploits of Athos, Porthos, Aramis, d’Artagnan, Milady, Rochefort and Cardinal Richelieu were perfect material to be transformed with the treatment of Lard.
By one of those unexpected coincidences, another good friend of ours, Martin at Warbases, also mentioned about that time he was hoping to find some rules which were suitable for the period to accompany Warbases' fine range of miniatures (which were inspired by one of the excellent, recent TV dramatisations of Alexandre Dumas’ books).
We've barely started on the rules and play-testing, but it’s an exciting time - stepping out into Paris of the early-seventeenth century to cross swords with a multitude of rivals, enemies, factions and adversaries. We’re hoping for a game which is very portable - with our first play-testing being on a board 18 inches (about 48cm) square - and with a low figure count, possibly only a dozen figures a side.
Hopefully, history will not be forgotten as we travel the dusty roads of Champagne and the Île-de-France. I've been reading through manuals and treatises on the different schools of fencing from the late sixteenth and seventeenth centuries. Hopefully, we can introduce rules for various schools of swordsmanship into our games - whether they are the Italian Schools of Bologna or Venice, the evolving styles of fencing with rapiers, or the styles of fencing practiced in the Salle d’Armes of Paris established by notorious gentlemen of the blade following the examples of François Dancie or Girolamo Cavalcabo.
And, with luck, the single-based figures can also be recruited for use into larger-skirmish games of "In the Buff" or "The Pikeman's Lament".
As for the figures, I thought 28mm worked best, using a mixture of Les Mousquetaires du Roi and the Garde de Richelieu from Warbases and Brigade Games, with some extra figures from Dixon Miniatures, Wargames Foundry, 1st. Corps and the lovely 1898 Miniatures range. As there'll be fewer figures on the table, it should also allow us the scope to create some fun conversions, vignettes and green-stuff lunacies. Here's two converted figures from a favourite miniature in Dixon Miniatures' wonderful "Grand Alliance" range.
In the fighting and duelling, we've been trying out rules for stumbling swordsmen and dropped weapons. No one makes figures or bases for these, so I felt like making my own, together with some figures for prone swordsmen. The two prone swordsmen below were converted form 1st. Corps casualties, with swapped-out Redoubt Miniatures' heads with green-stuff ruffs and cloaks.
I've added common soldiers, ruffians, henchmen and civilians to the project. I've experimented with adding these to 20mm or 30mm square bases (with rounded corners). These store really nicely in foam trays. The Dumas novels are packed full of intrigue, disguises, spies and agents - so there's plenty of opportunity to assemble a cast of citizens which can fit into any Parisian location.
Finally, and with a nod to future games, I could not resist painting up Louis XIII and Anne d'Autriche. These Warbases miniatures painted up beautifully. Any resemblance to Alexandra Dowling and Ryan Gage is ... well, I may have to paint up another pair of figures to get it just right!
I'm not at all sure what the final rules will look like, so all this might change... So far we've been experimenting with a few, core characteristics. And, of course, that's a chance for some more very self-indulgent cards to place at the players' disposals.
That's all for now, but hopefully in future posts I can post a few pictures of the games we've been playing, and explore our Paris of 1622 in a little more detail. Hope you can join me for that next time.
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Sid, these look absolutely fantastic and I'm looking forward to giving them a go. Vive la reine!
ReplyDeleteVive la Reine, indeed, Hugh! Thanks so much!
DeleteJust found your blog via Palouse Warging Journal Sidney. I will follow this project with great interest as I have had a similar hankering after skirmish gaming in the same period for quite some time and recently bought some Brigade Games figures that could possibly be used. The paint work on the figures is outstanding by the way but unfortunately your friend at Warbases version of the Queen doesn't quite match up with the actress who portrayed her in the TV series! (It's not your painting to blame!)
ReplyDeleteThank you very much! The Brigade Games figures are super. One of the things I have planned is a figure comparison (in-scale photos), so you might find that interesting.
DeleteThe King and Queen from Warbases are very nice figures, I felt. I don't think I replicated Queen Anne very well at all - I found the blond hair difficult to do. But the detail on the figures was well done. And, besides, how could a paintbrush really capture the most excellent Mr Gage and Ms Dowling? Well, not mine, anyway!
A wonderfully indulgent project and one I'm certain will generate a significant following. There's a lot of work you've done already. I enjoyed reading through your post very much - as always. Thanks for sharing your plans.
ReplyDeleteI'm really pleased you liked the post. It all seems a natural fit alongside the "Laarden 1688" project - and it's a nice change of scale and pace from painting battalions and squadrons!
DeleteHow absolutely charming
ReplyDeleteWhat a great little project!
ReplyDeleteThanks very much, Jim!
DeleteAn exciting development/project! I love the concept, and have been thinking about this sort of game system/setting for some time, but the rules I have found (thus far) have not been to my liking. Very much looking forward to further news of your progress!
ReplyDeleteThanks Ed! Glad to have you aboard for the ride! One of the plans I have here for a blog post is comparing the various rules already available ('En Garde' (both sets!), 'Flashing Steel', 'Crossed Swords', 'Gloire', 'Flashning Blades', 'Savvy & Steel', and so on). They offer a huge amount already, and none of them is a dud (far from it!!).
DeleteBut they're all interesting to look at and try in the context of thinking - "What do we want to create, and what (if anything) is missing...?"
I'm really encouraged to discover that Three Musketeers-style duelling and intrigue is now getting the Lardy treatment!
DeleteFor several years, I've been looking for a good set of rules for 16th / 17th century small scale skirmishes (as opposed to Sharp Practice style 'large skirmishes').
Flashing Steel from Ganesha Games seems to me like the best currently available, so I am really looking forward to your planned blog post comparing the different rules you mention with your own rule-development objectives.
P.S.
You don't mention 'And One for All' the free rules from Eureka for use with their wonderful 40mm figures. These are very postmodern 'pulp' rules that seek to recreate cinematic action and actually reward the use of deliberately implausible stunts! They have also ahd the cheek to 'borrow' the core initiative mechanism from Flashing Steel!
Hi Daniel - many apologies for not replying sooner. I've some blogging to catch up with, but I'll be comparing the various rules available here during the start of this year. We're talking small games for "...with Flashing Blades", and there are a few differences to "Flashing Steel" which I do really like. We have tried the Eureka rules, and they do give a very different game - good fun, indeed!
DeleteLooks really great Sidney. I’ll be watching to see how this develops.
ReplyDeleteThanks Peter...I'm sure you'll enjoy it. Who knows, there might even be a galleon, or galleass, in sight at some distant future point...
DeleteInspiration in miniature form, terrific.
ReplyDeleteSo pleased you enjoyed the first post!
DeleteAbsolutely stunning work and of a period that always looks good on screen:)
ReplyDeleteThanks very much, Steve - looks good on screen, and I really hope it'll look good on the table too!
Deletewhat a wonderful project
ReplyDeleteThanks Eric....
DeleteOoh this looks *very* interesting!
ReplyDeleteCheers
Matt
Hope you enjoy what's coming, Matt!
DeleteA splendid, not so little, project!
ReplyDeletehaha..... it's only a "small" distraction! Honest!
DeleteI've seen hints of this on the TFL Twitter feed and it has piqued my interest. It certainly gives me a reason to buy those nice Warbases minis that I've coveted for ages.
ReplyDeleteVery pleased that we can all encourage you (and others, hopefully) to buy more stuff!
DeleteWonderfully imagined and executed Sidney.
ReplyDeleteThanks very much, Phil!
DeleteLovely stuff there. Yep, I now have the theme tune of The Flashing Blade running through my mind...
ReplyDeleteYes, that theme tune is addictive. We promise not to use it (much) if we make videos of the game ;)
DeleteReally beautiful work Sidney!
ReplyDeleteChristopher
These are fantastic. Can't wait to see the rules you cook up. These should be great fun. Been enjoying Rich's tweets on them
ReplyDeleteThanks Chris - really hope you like them!
DeleteBrilliant work Sidney.
ReplyDeleteCheers, Scrivs!
DeleteSplendid looking diversion, sounds like a ton of fun!
ReplyDeleteBest Iain
You'll love it, Iain, I promise!
DeleteWonderful figures Sir Sidney. I too dabbled in the Three Musketeers figures, mostly from Redoubt with a few from Old Glory thrown in for good measure. I'll have to dig them out again!
ReplyDeleteSounds great, Ray! The fun of a project like this is that so many people have a few Musketeers lying around, just waiting for the chance to flash some steel and raise a rapier in the service of The King & Queen!
DeleteYes, this is just the sort of thing that many wargamers have got some figures ready for, but have struggled to settle on satisfactory rules.
DeleteIn my case, I picked up the splendid 28mm Eureka Renaissance Italian gang range in the half-price clearance sale at Fighting 15s last year!
The figures are now available from Eureka UK with a discount for buying the whole range: https://www.eurekaminuk.com/collections/civilians-abd-vignettes/products/italian-renaissance-famiglia-special-offer-28mm
The Eureka Italian Renaissance gang range (...should be called the "Romeo & Juliet" range), it terrific. Some lovely figures. If you want to refight the Montagues and Capulets in Verona, then "...with Flashing Blades" should hopefully be able to handle that!
DeleteGreat stuff Sidney, when you finish playtesting I think I will pick them up as a nice side game for French Wargame Holidays. We had a famous duel here in Mayenne when the Cardinal become the duke of Mayenne after purchasing it, the square has not really changed much since then.
ReplyDeletecheers
Matt
French Wargame Holidays
That sounds just the sort of thing for the rules, Matt - just perfect!
DeleteOh dear My Lord Roundwood, you truly seem to be on a roll here, grand stuff!
ReplyDeleteThanks so much, Sander!
DeleteHello, what a beautiful subject, the first paintings on figurines are superb, well done. I really like this time, I am very happy that you create skirmish rules, I can't wait to see the rendering and the restitution. Question the duelist character in pink, what brand is he? What reference? I think there is work with Green stuff dough. Strongly that you inform us of the evolution of this great project, well done.
ReplyDeleteThanks, Eric! The figure in pink is a converted Dixon Miniatures officer from Dixons' "Grand Alliance' range (figure GA2). I changed his sword arm, and added come green-stuff for the wig and lace.
DeleteExcellent, I first encountered the Musketeers in Character as the BBC filmed a series in the early 60s with a certain very LOUD and BEARDED english actor taking time off from playing Fancy Smith in Z cars to play Porthos. Not even Oliver Reed quite measures up. My favourite figures are still Redoubt, the clothing is spot on for the 1620s/30s but I must replace the sword blades with pins to look suitably lethal, and to encourage careful handling.
ReplyDeleteThanks Graham !! The Redoubt figures are terrific - some really great poses and a very complete range. I've changed quite a few of the figures' swords with pins, mainly where the swords might get bent in transit or when gaming with them. I think the extra work is always worth the effort!
DeleteLooking forward a lot to seeing this. I hope not just the Italian schools will make a showing, but also the German ones (Meyer is only a few... okay, 50... years earlier), and most importantly, the Spanish school (although Thibault, its most famous master was French). Or, if you like having a bad back, there's also Fabris (although fencing in the buff seems a bit much, even for the French!)
ReplyDeleteThe Schools of Fencing are an important part of the combat in the game. You'll find La Verdadera Destreza, in particular de Carranza and de Narváez. There's also the Italian styles of Bologna and Naples, with Fabris and Capo Ferro. What I've found really interesting has been the French schools and salons, such as François Dancie. We've tried to build all these schools, styles and techniques in the game (suitably synthesised!). I've really enjoyed focusing on the historical elements of fighting - as described by the various teachers of the late sixteenth and early seventeenth century.
DeleteA quick update on this, Hobbitomm..... I've been looking into the 'German' styles of fighting. They are a little early for the rapier-dominant Schools of the early-17th Century, but I have added into the playtesting rules a heavier "German sword", something similar to a basket-hilted broadsword, as well as longer Spanish and French "Verdun"-style swords. So, some extra variety for specialist fighting styles there. Details (from Egerton Castle) in a future, much-delayed, blog post!
DeleteHow are you portraying the different fencing schools?
ReplyDeleteHave you checked out schola gladiatora and the other videos on You Tube?
The different fencing schools are a big part of the game. I'll try and put together a blog post focusing on this. In summary, each School has strengths and weaknesses - and trying to manage the skills and styles of your characters against your opponent is (hopefully) a fun part of each game!
DeleteAnd yes, I've watched a some of the videos from schola gladiatora and also some of the other historical fencing groups. They've been really great to watch and enjoy!
I'm not sure if you have seen the role playing rules from Burning Wheel called Miseries & Misfortunes its in 1648 yet might give some grist for the mill? I have it an like it a lot we have even done four sessions of play and the group wants more. I hope you find the information useful. https://www.burningwheel.com/paris-1648/
ReplyDeleteMany thanks indeed. I have come across "Miseries & Misfortunes" before. It looks excellent. As you'll probably know, the Three Musketeers have been fertile ground for some excellent roleplaying games and supplements. It's always interesting to look through at the different mechanisms for honour, social standing, diplomacy, messengers and other very thematic activities. Thanks for reminding me to look at "Miseries & Misfortunes" again!
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